Baggallays, Westall & Spence: History

The Company

The history of this company is complicated by the fact that some of the information published about them during the Victorian Era was incorrect, including the year Baggallays, Westall and Spence was established with that name. The following two paragraphs about the firm were printed in 1885[1].

“The bills of Messrs. Baggallays & Spence, warehousemen, of 4 & 5, Love-lane, have been returned. The firm dates back from 1800, when it was Westall & Co. It was reconstituted as Spence, Baggallays, & Spence in 1830, again in 1869, as Baggallays, Westall, & Spence, and lastly, in 1881, as above. No serious consequences are apprehended from the firm’s failure. Much regret has been generally expressed at this failure, as well as at that of Messrs. Truninger, on account of the good reputation of the partners in both cases. The later house had been in existence for forty years, their business being originally that of silk merchants, the founder having been previously an agent of Messrs. Aries-Dufour, of Lyons. Messrs. Truninger subsequently entered on exchange business, and, owning to repeat losses, as well as some withdrawals of capital, had become weak in later years. These failures are both signs of the altered conditions of business, which certainly tend to “squeeze out” the middle-man, and to throw exchange business more and more into the hands of firms with a large amount of capital.”

“APROPOS of the recent failure of Messrs. Baggallays, Spence. & Co., it had been pointed out that warehousemen have, of course, had to suffer from depreciation of stocks, - it is their business to keep stocks for selection by the retail drapers’ shops, - but that the fall in prices has not been nearly so severe about Wood-street as about Mark-lane, Mincing-lane, the Metal Exchange, and other parts of the city. It is conceded, moreover, that, notwithstanding the agricultural depression, shopkeepers have been able to pay up very well, a statement which agrees with the reduced total of published failures in England, whatever the accountants may say as to the working of the Bankruptcy Act.”

The origins of Baggallays, Westall & Spence go back to 1800, however, its name was changed numerous times over the years due to the different individuals involved with the company. Below is a chart that shows how the business was listed in London city directories from 1800 until 1890 when it no longer existed. This is followed by the firm’s history based on several additional sources.

London City Directory Listings[2]
Year	Company Name	Business Type	Address	Page #
1800	Wm. Westall	wholesale haberdasher	57, Borough	200
1802	William Westall	wholesale haberdasher	57, Borough	WE-WE
1805	Wm. Westall	wholesale haberdasher	57, Borough	257
1810	Westall, Westall & Spence	wholesale haberdashers	57, High st, Borough	315
1811	Westall, Westall & Spence	haberdashers	57, Borough	WES-WES
1820	Westall, Spence & Co.	wholesale haberdashers	57, High St, Borough	619
1823[3]	Westall’s, Spence & Baggallay	wholes, haberdashers	57, Borough	356
1825	Spence, Baggallay & Westall	wholesale haberdashers	20, King st, Cheapside	377
1825	Westall & Co.	wholesale haberdashers	57, High-street, Borough	428
1830	Spence, Baggallay & Westall	warehousemen	20 King st, Cheapside	SOU-SPE
1835	Spence, Baggally & Westall (Note: Baggallay is misspelled)	warehousemen	21 King st, Cheapside & 36 Cateaton	SPA-SPE
1840	Spence, Daggally & Co. (Note: Baggallay is misspelled)	warehousemen	4 Love lane, Aldermanbury	SPA-SPE
1845	Spence, Baggallay & Son	wholesale haberdashers & silk mercers	4 & 5 Love lane, Wood street, Cheapside	973
1850	Spence, Baggallay & Co.	wholesale warehousemen	4, 5 & 6 Love lane, Wood street, Cheapside	1018
1856	Spence, Baggallays’ & Westall	wholesale warehousemen	4 to 6 Love lane, Wood street	1386
1856	John Baggallay – see Spence, Baggallay & Westall	wholesale warehouseman		836
1856	Richard Baggallay – see Spence, Baggallay & Westall	wholesale warehouseman		836
1856	Thomas Weston Baggallay – see Spence, Baggallay & Westall	wholesale warehouseman		836
1856	Wm Mawley Westall – see Spence, Baggallay & Westall	wholesale warehouseman		1464
1860	Baggallays’, Westall & Spence	warehm	4 to 6 Love la. City EC	803
1860	John Baggallay – see Spence, Baggallays’ & Westall (Note: the name of the company appears to be an error as there is no company with that name in this directory, pages 1321-1322)	warehusmn		803
1860	Thomas Weston Baggallay – see Spence, Baggallays’ & Westall (Note: the name of the company appears to be an error as there is no company with that name in this directory, pages 1321-1322)	wholesale warehouseman		803
1860	Robt. Spence jun. - see Baggallays, Westall & Spence	warehouseman		1322
1860	Wm. Mawley Westall - see Baggallays’, Westall & Spence	warehouseman		1394
1870	Baggallays’, Westall & Spence	warehsemen	4 &5 Love lane EC	651
1870	John Baggallay – see Baggallays’, Westall & Spence	warehousm		651
1870	Thomas Weston Baggallay – see Baggallays’, Westall & Spence	wholesale warehouseman		651
1870	William Mawley Westall – see Baggallays’, Westall & Spence	warehouseman		1334
1870	Robt. Spencer Jun. – see Baggallays’, Westall & Spence	warehsmn		1249
1880	Baggallays’, Westall & Spence	warehousemen	4 &5 Love lane, Wood street EC	701
1885	Baggallays’ & Spence	warehousemen	4 &5 Love lane, Wood st EC	718
1885	Robert Spence – see Bagallays’ and Spence	warehousemen		1285
1890	Not listed

Sometime around 1800 William Westall established a wholesale haberdashery business at 57 Borough High Street in the Southwark section of central London. At the time a haberdasher[4] was a business that sold small articles for sewing clothing such as buttons, needles, pins, ribbons and threads. Around 1810 Thomas Westall and Robert Spence became part of the firm and it was renamed Westall, Westall and Spence. Within a few years another man named Richard Baggallay joined the other three and the firm became known as Westall, Spence & Baggallay. Then in 1815[5] the partnership between the four was dissolved as William Westall retired and the other three carried on with the same name. However, that is not how they were listed in city directories. Apparently after William Westall’s 1815 departure, Robert Spence became the senior partner with Richard Baggallay second and Thomas Westall last because the company’s name was listed in city directories most often as Spence, Baggallay & Westall from at least 1825 until at least 1856. Also, according to a notice in 1841[6], the business known as Spence, Baggallay, Westall, and Co., with regards to William Spence, was dissolved because he retired that year. Perhaps it was Thomas Westall who retired in 1815 as no Thomas Westall was listed in the 1841 notice whereas he was listed in 1815. Or maybe there were two partners with the name William Westall during those years making it difficult to know which retired when. At some point, probably in the 1840’s or 1850’s, the two sons of Richard Baggallay, John and Thomas Weston, joined the firm as did William Weston’s son, William Mawley, and Robert Spence’s son Robert Jr. Also, between 1820 and 1825 the company moved to King Street in Cheapside and by 1830 it became known as warehousemen and later as wholesale warehousemen. Sometime between 1835 and 1840 the company moved again, this time to Love Lane where it remained for the rest of its existence.

Baggallays, Westall & Spence was established in 1859[7] because that is the year the partnership between Robert Spence, Richard Baggallay, John Baggallay, Thomas Weston Baggallay, and William Mawley Westall was dissolved (Spence, Baggallays & Westall). Robert Spence Sr. and Richard Baggallay retired that year, and a new partnership was formed between the brothers John and Thomas Weston Baggallay, and William Mawley Westall and Robert Spence the younger. As a result, the business was renamed Baggallays, Westall, & Spence. By 1865[8] the firm was listed as a commercial business in the Manchester trade[9] which meant it was a wholesale business that sold linen and cloth made at factories in the Manchester area. In 1867[10] a new warehouse was constructed next to their original Love Lane building which was described as follows:

“NEW BUILDINGS FOR MESSRS. BAGGALLAYS, WESTALL, AND SPENCE.

In the midst of many other alterations in the neighbourhood of Love-lane and Aldermanbury, extensive additions and improvements have been made on the premises of Messrs. Baggallays, Westall, and Spence, by the erection of a new warehouse, at the rear of, and communicating with, their old warehouses in Love-Lane. The new buildings have a frontage of iron and stone next Bury-court, and consist of basement, ground, and three floors over, all thoroughly lighted in the rear by an iron and plate-glass roof, supported on enriched iron columns, and with decorated well-holes throughout, all of a very light and elegant design, communication being made to the old warehouses by twelve double wrought iron doors, and the warehouses fitted with lift from the basement to top floor. The works, which have been executed by Mr. W. Henshaw, were completed in a most remarkably short space of time. They were commenced the first week in January last, and carried on through all the severe and bad weather, the workmen having, on several occasions, to work through the night, as delays occurred in consequence of bills being filed in Chancery by the occupiers of surrounding buildings for injunctions to stop the progress of the works on question of air and light. The contractor, however, was bound under a heavy penalty to complete by the 25th of March. Mr. Herbert Ford, of 126 Wood-street, Cheapside, was the Architect, under whose personal and able superintendence the whole of the buildings were carried out and completed in a satisfactory manner. Great credit is due to Mr. Henshaw for the energetic and spirited manner in which be carried our the works, which it would have been impossible to execute in the specified time, but for the large amount of steam machinery which he has at his command for the cutting, carving, and moulding of almost all and every kind of iron, wood, and stone. This now very commodious warehouse, erected at a cost of some thousands of pounds, was occupied by Messrs. Baggallays, Westall and Spence, on the 29th of March, notwithstanding the fact that a large amount of fittings and furniture not included in the contract, had to be supplied. Mr. William Sansom was the Clerk of the works.”

This company continued operations until 1881[11] when their partnership was dissolved again when William Mawley Westall left the firm. The three remaining partners carried on the business under the name Baggallays & Spence for three more years. The 1870’s and 1880’s were turbulent times for businesses in Great Britain due to the Long Depression[12], a worldwide price and economic recession, which when combined with the agricultural depression in the country caused the British to be the consider the hardest hit. Many businesses who did not have a large amount of capital, declared bankruptcy or failed during this period. Baggallays & Spence was having serious financial issues in late December 1884[13] as seen in the newspaper clipping below. In January 1885[14], three days after this was published, the business failed and was permanently closed.

“The difficulties are reported of Messrs. Baggallays and Spence, Manchester warehousemen, of Love-lane, Wood-street, EC. The firm has been established upwards of 10 years, but late the business has been steadily declining. The liabilities are understood to be large.”

The section of London where Baggallay, Westall & Spence had their warehouses on Love Lane, Wood Street and Aldermanbury in Cheapside was bombed heavily during the Blitz in 1940 in the second World War. Today this area of London is filled with modern multi-storied buildings and busy commerce. A small park sits on the northwest corner of Love Lane and Aldermanbury known as St. Mary Aldermanbury Garden. Originally a parish church named St. Mary Aldermanbury[15] was built here in 1181 but was destroyed in the Great Fire of London in 1666. It was rebuilt in the late 17th century by the famous British architect Christopher Wren, who also built St. Paul’s Cathedral which is located only a few blocks away. Unfortunately, St. Mary Aldermanbury was gutted during the Blitz with only the stone walls left standing, which were transported to the USA in 1966 and reconstructed as a memorial to Winston Churchill. One of the most interesting features in this park is the monument created to honor two men, Henry Condell and John Heminges, who were originally buried here. These men were friends and co-partners with William Shakespeare whose plays were first performed at the Globe Theater in London. The bust of Shakespeare[16] seen here sits at the top of the monument.

Acting as Avery’s Agent in London

To date the earliest needle related item to appear with this firm’s name was the needle packet counter box, pictured here[17], that William Avery patented in 1867. Inscribed on the box’s lid, along with Avery’s name, are the words “Agents in London Baggallays, Westall & Spence”. This was the first patent Avery registered and it was for “improvements in boxes or cases for holding packets of needles”[18]. Avery’s design for a metal counter box was an upgrade to the earlier wooden ones that sat on the counters in stores and possibly wore out fast or were easily damaged. Evidently Avery established an agreement with Baggallays, Westall & Spence, and they acted as Avery’s representative in London. A large degree of Avery’s business success revolved around getting his needles in front of the public and what better way to do that than to create figural needle cases that appealed to middle- and upper-class woman in the London area. As warehousemen Baggallays, Westall & Spence had connections with just the right type of stores where these people shopped. Perhaps after obtaining some of Avery’s counter boxes, this London firm suggested that Avery create figural needle cases. This way Baggallays, Westall & Spence could stamp their name on the outside of a brass needle case and get even more publicity than Avery did with his needles inside. It is highly likely that the Baggallays, Westall & Spence organization was also responsible for introducing Avery’s needles and needle cases to drapers and clothiers, dressing case and lace manufactures and other warehousemen in the London area who subsequently had Avery style needle cases stamped with their names.

Unlike the relationships Avery had with other companies in London, the one he formed with Baggallays, Westall & Spence seems to have been the strongest. It also lasted the longest based on the number of needle case designs that carried the firms name and the dates in which Avery registered them. To date twenty unique Avery style needle cases have been found with the Baggallays, Westall & Spence name, the most of any business other than Avery’s. These include four flat-style needle cases registered to Avery: Alliance, Britannia, Stella and Victoria with Windmill and Horses, and nine figural needle cases registered by Avery: Archery Society, Bee Case (top and bottom pictured here), Bomb, Butterfly, Guitar, Hedgehog, Pyramid Pin Case, Scallop Shell and Universal Pin Case. Avery most likely introduced Baggallays, Westall & Spence to several Birmingham area die-sinkers and stampers who also designed needle cases for Avery. As a result, seven additional figural needle cases also carried this London firm’s name: Easel-Floral, Horseshoe, Painted Scrolls[19] (front and interior pictured here), Picnic Basket, Victorian Rowboat, Wheelbarrow with Holly, and the Trolley and Box. The firm’s relationship with Avery appears to have ended around the time the Baggallays, Westall & Spence partnership was dissolved in 1881 as no Avery style needle cases registered after 1876 have been found with this London company’s name.

The Baggallay Owners

Richard Baggallay was born c1790 in Southwark, a district of central London on the south side of the River Thames. In 1815 he married Ann Marden at St. Mary’s in neighboring Lambeth, and they had 4 children between 1816 and 1821: Richard, John, Ann and Thomas Weston. When the census was taken in 1841 Richard, who was listed as a gentleman, was staying at a hotel in Dover 80 miles south of London while Ann was living in Lambeth with the children and 5 servants. It seems most likely that Richard was either visiting Dover on business or vacationing there with friends. By 1851 the Baggallay’s were living at Winchester in Southwark, which was most likely Winchester Walk or Winchester Square, approximately two blocks south of the Thames and two blocks west of London Bridge. Although Richard officially retired from the Spence, Baggallays & Westall company in 1859, it appears that he may actually have retired a bit earlier as he was listed as a retired merchant in 1851 and as a magistrate retired from commerce in 1861. Perhaps during his final years with the company, he only stayed on as a partner so his two sons could reach a higher level of standing in the firm. By 1861 Richard and Ann and their daughter moved a couple blocks east to St. Thomas Street and later establishing an estate called Kingthorpe House in Upper Tooting, Streatham in the Wandsworth district about 6 miles south of central London. Richard died there in 1870 at age 80 and was buried at the Norwood Cemetery in Lambeth. His estate valued at £30,000 (approximately equal to 1,878,270 today[20]) was proved by his three sons. At the time of his death his eldest son (pictured o the left [21]) was Sir Richard Baggallay a Knight and one of her Majesty’s counsel whereas the other two sons were esquires. “In the United Kingdom, Esquire historically was a title of respect accorded to men of higher social rank, particularly members of the landed gentry above the rank of gentleman and below the rank of knight.”[22] Ann continued to live at their house in Streatham until her death 13 years later in 1883 at age 88. Her estate of £5,106 was passed to her three sons.

Richard and Ann Baggallay’s second son, John Baggallay was born c1818 and baptized in 1818 at St. Mary’s in Lambeth. By 1843 he was considered an esquire as that is how he was listed when he married Emma Weeding at St. Pancreas in the Camden section of London. John and Emma had 10 children from 1844 to 1859: Emma, Mary Weston, Thomas Weeding, Annie, Mary Helen, an unnamed male, William Richard, Arthur, Charles and Robert. From 1844 to 1850 the family lived in St. Pancreas. Then in 1851 John and Emma and two of their children were living with his parents in Southwark, and John was listed as a merchant presumably working for Spence, Baggallay & Westall, a position he held until 1859 when he became a partner in the newly named business of Baggallays, Westall & Spence. The family moved to Streatham in Wandsworth by 1861 and then to Godstone, Surrey about 22 miles south of Central London. In 1873 Emma died at age 55 while at the Bridewell Hospital in London and was buried at the Norwood Cemetery. By 1881 John was living at New Bridge Street near the Bridewell Hospital with his 6 children and 7 servants and was working as a merchant. Possibly his reason for living there was because it was much closer to his business which was less than a mile from his residence. After the Baggallays, Westall & Spence company failed, John became employed by the Bridewell Hospital as a clerk and sometime later moved to Ramsgate in the Thant district of Kent, 82 miles southeast of London. He died there at age 80 in 1898 and left an estate of £6,053 to Thomas Weeding Weeding, a solicitor, probably a relative of his wife.

The youngest son of Richard and Ann Baggallay was Thomas Weston Baggallay who was born in 1821 and baptized at St. Mary’s in Lambeth that year. In 1836 at age 15 he became indentured to a merchant tailer named Thomas Bulcock Burbidge[23] in Southwark for seven years. Presumably after his apprenticeship ended around 1843, Thomas became involved with the Spencer, Baggallay & Westall firm as he was listed as a merchant in 1851. In 1854 Thomas married Louisa Westall at St. Luke’s in the Norwood section of Lambeth. Louisa was the daughter of the William Westall who was a partner with Thomas’s father in earlier years, and the sister of William Mawley Westall who became Thomas’s business partner in 1859. Thomas and Louisa had 5 children: Frank Thomas, Margaret Louisa, Walter, Kate and Mark and the family lived in the Clapham section of Wandsworth in 1861. Unfortunately, the whereabouts of this Baggallay family have not been found in the 1871 and 1881 censuses, however, during those years Thomas worked as a partner in Baggallays, Westall & Spence. He was listed as Thomas Weston Baggallay of 4 Love Lane in his mother’s 1883 probate record, further proof that he also worked for the firm after it became known as Baggallays & Spence. After the business failed, Thomas and Louisa moved to Dover, 80 miles south east of London, where they lived on their own means for the rest of their lives. Thomas died there in 1905 at age 83 leaving an estate of £9,699 to his widow, eldest son and to a nephew. He was buried at the Norwood Cemetery. Eleven years later Louisa died at age 84 in 1916 while visiting Clevedon, a town near Bristol, 120 miles west of London, most likely while visiting family or friends who lived there. Her body was returned to the London area, and she was buried at Norwood Cemetery leaving an estate valued at £3,519 to her eldest daughter, eldest son and to the same Baggallay nephew as her husband did.

The Westall Owners

William Westall was born in 1800 and baptized at St. Saviour’s in Southwark roughly a year after his parents were married in 1799. His parents were Thomas, a haberdasher, and Winifred Westall. When William was 25 years old in 1825, he married Jane Mawley at St. Mary’s in the Lewisham section of south east London. William and Jane had 9 children between 1826 and 1841: William Mawley, Jane, Louisa, Ellen, Robert R., Alfred Charles, Winifred, Amy and Marian. The family lived in the Central London area for 13 years as 8 of their children were born there. The first four children were born near the St. Lawrence Jewry church only a couple blocks from the Spence, Baggallay & Westall warehouse, whereas the birth of the last child in London was in the St. Pancreas area. By 1841 the Westall family moved 6 miles south to Streatham in the Wandsworth section of south London where they remained for the rest of their lives. When the census was taken in 1841 William was working as a merchant and he must have been quite successful because the family with 6 children had a governess and 8 servants. After leaving the Spence, Baggallay & Westall firm sometime in 1841 William decided to pursue a career in a different business and by 1851 was working as a whalebone merchant. During the 18th century London was a leading whaling port[24] with ships sailing out into the Atlantic frequently to bringing back whales and other sea life for processing. The oil obtained from whale blubber and other marine life was used to make soap, paint, lubricants and for domestic and street lighting. Whalebone products included parts for women’s corsets and bonnets as well as spectacle frames, whips, umbrella ribs, fishing rods, fencing, seat backs and bottoms, carriage springs, and combs. As a result, there was a high demand for whales. William died in Streatham in 1852 of tuberculosis[25] at age 52 and was buried at the Norwood Cemetery. To date his probate has not been found. Jane continued to live in the Streatham area as a fundholder or an annuitant and 21 years later in 1873 passed away there at age 71 leaving as estate of £10,000 proved by their three sons.

The eldest son of William Westall and Jane Mawley was named after both of his parents as it was common during this time period for parents to give one of their children the wife’s surname as a middle name. William Mawley Westall was born in 1826 at St. Lawrence Jewry in London. In 1851 he was still living with his parents but was working as a warehouseman presumably at the Spence, Baggallay & Westall’s Love Lane warehouse. William married Helen Briggs in 1855 at the St. Pancreas Parish Chapel in the Camden section of London and in 1861 they were living in St. Pancreas with Helen’s parents while William continued working as a silk warehouseman. William and Helen had 9 children between 1856 and 1873: Helen I who died within weeks of her birth, Helen II, Ada, Laura, Elizabeth, William, Henrietta, Henry Robert and Isabell. Sometime between 1862 and 1865 the family moved 11 miles south to Croydon in south London where they remained until at least 1881. When his mother died in 1873, he was listed in her probate record as William Mawley Westall of 5 Love Lane, London a warehouseman. During those years in Croydon, William worked as a silk warehouseman for Baggallays, Westall & Spence and in 1871 was listed as a Manchester warehouseman. Although he was again recorded as a silk warehouseman in 1881, he left the business later that year and pursed a different occupation as he was listed in 1891 as an employer manufacturing lubricants. Also, by that year the family moved to Deptford in the Greenwich section of London. Five years later William died there in 1896 at age 70 and left an estate of £8,998 to his widow. After his death Helen moved four miles southeast to Lee, Kent where she died in 1898 at age 69 and left an estate of £1585 to their youngest son Henry.

The Spence Owners

Robert Spence was born c1787 in Southwark. He married Charlotte Harmar at St. Giles in the Camberwell section of Southwark in 1822 and they had at least 12 children between 1824-1844 all born in the Camberwell area: Mary, George, Charlotte, Emma, Eliza, Louisa, Helen, Robert Jr, Fanny, Edwin John, Octavia, and Alice. Robert spent his entire working life as a haberdasher warehouseman and merchant, at first becoming a partner in Westall, Westall & Spence around 1810 which later became Spence, Baggallay and Westall around 1825 when Robert became the senior partner. Although he continued to be a partner until 1859, he may have given up the lead role in the firm because he was listed as a retired merchant in 1851. Also, in 1851 the family was either temporarily living in or visiting the town of Stanton Lacy in Shropshire, 147 miles northwest of London. By 1861 they were back in the south London area of Croydon where Robert was listed as a retired silk and woolen merchant. The Spence family finally settled in Bickley in the Bromley area, 8 miles east to Croydon where they remained. Robert died there at age 86 in 1873 and was buried at Norwood Cemetery. He left an estate of £16,000 (approximately £1,001,744 today[26]) proved by his wife, their son Robert Jr. and another man. His wife Charlotte passed away four years later in Bickley in 1877 and was also buried at Norwood Cemetery. Charlotte’s estate of £3,000 was proved by Robert Jr. and her eldest daughter Mary Spence.

Robert Spence Jr. was the second son of Robert Spence Sr. and Charlotte Harmar. He was born in 1836 in Camberwell and was baptized that year at the St. Giles church. When Robert Jr. was 14 years old in 1851 he was living in Hereford, Herefordshire, 135 miles northwest of London as was his younger brother Edwin. It seems most likely that when their parents were living in or visiting Shropshire they decided to send the boys to a school in Hereford as both sons were scholars that year. After completing his studies Robert Jr. returned to London area and lived with his parents in Croydon for a few years, working as a silk and woolen merchant in the Baggallays, Westall and Spence firm. He married Alice Layton in 1865 in the Bromley area and they had 10 children from 1866 to 1884: Robert Morris, George Malcom, Margaret Helen, Ethel Mary, Mabel Katherine, Dorothy Alice, Reginald Arthur, Violet Evelyn, Winifred and Walter Newbury. The family remained in the Bromley area until at least 1901. When his parents died in 1873 and 1877 respectively, he was listed in their probate records as Robert Spence of Love Lane in London a wholesale haberdasher. In 1871 Robert was listed as a warehouseman and draper and in 1881 as a Manchester warehouseman. It seems most likely that after William Mawley Westall left Baggallays, Westall & Spence in 1881 it was renamed Baggallays and Spence. After the business failed in 1885, Robert Jr. became a fellow of the society of accountants as that is how he was listed in 1891. The family continued to live in the Bromley area until at least 1901 when Robert Jr. was listed as an incorporated accountant on his own account. Information about this Spence family after 1901 is unknown as no records have been found regarding them after that year.

Baggallays, Westall & Spence: Images

Baggallays, Westall & Spence: Genealogy

Baggallay Generation 1: Richard Baggallay (c1790-1870) and Ann Marden (c1794-1883)

· Born: c1790 Southwark (S4).

· Baptized: not found,

· Marriage: August 1, 1815 St. Mary, Lambeth (S3). Listed as Richard Baggallay a bachelor and Ann Marden spinster.

· 1841 Census: Royal Yook Hotel, Dover, Kent (S4). Listed as R. Baggalay age 51 no occupation not born in the county. (Note: census index incorrectly lists the surname as Baggaley. With regard to Baggallay’s occupation, the census taken appears to have placed ditto mark in this field and the person above is listed as a gentleman which appears to apply to Baggallay as well).

· 1841 Wife’s Census: Cold Harbor Lane, St. Mary, Lambeth (S4). Listed as Ann Baggallay age 45 with no occupation born in the county and 4 children: Richard, John, Ann and Thomas and 5 servants.

· 1851 Census: Winchester, Southwark, Surrey (S4). Listed as Richard Baggallay age 61 a retired merchant born in Southwark with wife Ann age 56 born in Southwark, 3 children: John, Ann and Thomas Weston, 1 son’s wife Emma age 33, 2 grandchildren and 8 servants.

· 1861 Census: 202 6 St. Thomas St, Southwark (S4). Listed as Richard Baggallay age 71 a magistrate retired from commerce born in Southwark with wife Ann age 66 born in Southwark, 1 daughter Ann and 6 servants.

· Death: 1st QTR 1870 Wandsworth (S5d), listed as Richard Baggallay age 80. January 4, 1870 at Kingthorpe House (S6).

· Burial: January 11, 1870 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth (S7). Listed as Richard Baggallay of Upper Tooting age 80.

· Probate: January 29, 1870 Principal Registry (S6). Listed as Richard Baggallay Esquire late of Kingthorpe House Upper Tooting, Surrey with effects under £30,000 was proved by the oaths of Sir Richard Baggallay of Lincolns Inn, Middlesex knight and one of her majesty’s counsel, John Baggallay of Upper Tooting esquire and Thomas Weston Baggallay of Beckenham, Kent, esquire the sons and executors.

· 1871 Wife’s Census: 6 Balham Rd, Kingsthorpe House, Streatham, Wandsworth (S4). Listed as Ann Baggallay a widow age 76 income derived from undecipherable of money and dividends born in Southwark with 1 daughter Ann and 6 servants. (Note: census index incorrectly lists the number of servants as 7).

· 1881 Census: 152 Kingsthorpe House Balham Rd, Streatham, Wandsworth (S4). Listed as Ann Baggallay a widow age 87 with no occupation born in Southwark with 1 daughter Ann and 5 servants.

· Wife’s Death: 1st QTR 1883 Wandsworth (S5d). Listed as Ann Baggalley age 88. January 28, 1883 at Kingsthorpe House (S6).

· Wife’s Burial: not found.

· Wife’s Probate: March 15, 1883 Principal Registry (S6). Listed as Ann Baggallay late of Kingthorpe House Upper Tooting, Surrey with personal estate £5,106 was proved by the oaths of the right honourable Sir Richard Baggallay of 55 Queen’s-gate, Middlesex knight, John Baggallay of 14 New-Bridge-street, London esquire and Thomas Weston Baggallay of 4 Love-lane Wood-Street, esquire the sons and executors.

· Children:

1. Sir Richard Baggallay (c1816-??). 1841 Census: with mother (S4).

2. John Baggallay (c1818-1898). – See Baggallay Generation 2.

3. Ann Baggallay (c1819-??). 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871 and 1881 with parents/mother (S4).

4. Thomas Weston Baggallay (c1821-1905,) – See Baggallay Generation 2.

Baggallay Generation 2: John Baggallay (c1818-1898) and Emma Weeding (c1818-1873)

· Born: c1818 (S4) (S5d).

· Baptized: June 13, 1818 St. Mary, Lambeth (S1c). Listed as John son of Richard and Anne Baggallay of Stockwell Commons with father’s occupation listed as wholesale haberdasher.

· 1841 Census: with mother (S4). Listed as John Baggallay age 20 with no occupation born in the county.

· March 18, 1843 Pancreas Parish Chapel, Camden (S3). Listed as John Baggallay a bachelor and esquire who resided at St. Mary Lambeth whose father was Richard Baggallay esquire and Emma Weeding a spinster.

· 1851 Census: with parents (S4). Listed as John Baggallay age 32 a merchant born in Lambeth with wife Emma age 33 born in Newington and 2 children: Annie and Mary Helen living with his parents Richard and Ann Baggallay.

· 1861 Census: 1 Balham, Streatham. Wandsworth (S4). Listed as John Baggallay age 42 a merchant in textile fabrics born in Lambeth with wife Emma age 43 born in Newington and 4 children: William R., Arthur, Charles P. and Robert, 7 servants and 2 servants family members.

· 1871 Census: 79 Harewood Park, Bletchingley, Godstone, Surrey (S4). Listed as John Baggallay age 52 a merchant born in Lambeth with wife Emma age 52 born in Newington and 3 children: Weeding Thomas Weeding a solicitor and landowner, Annie and William Richard and 1 servant.

· Wife’s Death: 2nd QTR 1873 Godstone, Surrey (S5d). Listed as Emma Baggallay age 55.

· Wife’s Burial: July 1, 1873 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth (S7). Listed as Emma Baggallay who died at Bridewell Hospital removed from Harewood, Bletchingley, Surrey age 55. (Note: census index incorrectly lists the surname as Boggallay).

· Wife’s Probate: not found.

· 1881 Census: 14 New Bridge St, Bridewell Hospital, London (S4). Listed as John Baggallay widower age 62 merchant born in Lambeth with 6 children: Millie, Mary Helen, William Richard, Arthur, John Perry and Robert and 7 servants.

· 1891 Census: 14 New Bridge St, Bridewell, London (S4). Listed as John Baggallay a widower age 72 a clerk to Bridewell Hospital employed born in Stockwell with 2 children: Annie and Mary H, 1 niece and 3 servants. (Note: census index incorrectly lists the surname as Baggaley).

· Death: 4th QTR 1898 Thanet, Kent (S5d). Listed as John Baggallay age 80. December 18, 1898 (S6).

· Burial: not found.

· Probate: March 2, 1899 London (S6). Listed as John Baggallay of 10 Wellington-crescent, Ramsgate with effects £6,053 to Thomas Weeding Weeding solicitor.

· Children: (S=a search of the GRO online index for male and female births between 1843-1875 with a mother’s maiden name of Weeding was undertake with these results).

1. Emma Baggallay (1844-??). Born: 1st QTR 1844 St. Pancreas (S=GRO online index), listed as Emma Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding.

2. Mary Weston Baggallay (1845-1847). Born: 4th QTR 1845 St. Pancreas (S=GRO online index), listed as Mary Weston Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding. Death: 1st QTR 1847 St. Pancreas (S=GRO online index), listed as Mary Weston Baggallay age 1.

3. Thomas Weeding Baggallay (1847-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1847 St. Pancreas (S=GRO online index), listed as Thomas Weeding Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding. 1871 Census: with parents (S4).

4. Annie Baggallay (1849-??). Born: 1st QTR 1849 St. Pancreas (S=GRO online index), listed as Annie Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding. 1851 Census: with parents(S), listed as Annie Baggallay age 2 born in St. Pancreas. 1871 with parents (S4). listed as Annie age 22 born at St, Pancreas. 1881 Census with parents: listed as Millie age 32 born in St. Pancreas. 1891 Censuses: with parents (S4), listed as Annie age 41 born in St. Pancreas.

5. Mary Helen Baggallay (1850-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1850 St. Pancreas (S=GRO online index), listed as unnamed female Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding. 1851 Census: with parents (S4), listed as May Helen age 1 born in St. Pancreas. 1881 Census: with parents (S4), listed as Mary Helen age 31 born in St. Pancreas. 1891 Census: with parents (S4), listed as Mary H. age 41 born in St. Pancreas.

6. Unnamed Male (1851-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1851 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed as unnamed male Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding.

7. William Richard Baggallay (1853-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1853 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed as unnamed male Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding. 1861, 1871 and 1881 Censuses: with parents (S4), listed as William R. Baggallay or William Richard Baggallay ages 7, 17 and 27 born in Streatham.

8. Arthur Baggallay (1854-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1854 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed as Artur Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding. 1861 and 1881 Censuses: with parents (S4).

9. Charles Baggallay (aka John Perry Baggallay) (1857-??). Born: 1st QTR 1857 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed as unnamed male Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding. 1861 Census: with parents (S4), listed as Charles P. Baggallay age 4 born in Streatham. 1881 Census: with parents (S4), listed as John Perry Baggallay age 24 born in Streatham.

10. Robert Baggallay (1859- ??). Born: 2nd QTR 1859 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed Robert Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Weeding. 1861 and 1881 Census: with parents (S4).

Baggallay Generation 3: Thomas Weston Baggallay (c1821-1905) and Louisa Westall (c1832-1916)

· Born: c1821 (S1c), c1822 (S4).

· Baptized: December 19, 1821 St. Mary, Lambeth (S1c). Listed as Thomas Weston son of Richard and Ann Baggallay of Camberwell with father’s occupation wholesale haberdasher.

· Indenture: October 1, 1836 to Thomas Bulcock Burbidge for seven years (S=London, England, Freedom of the City Admission Papers, 1681-1930 available at ancestry.com). Listed as Thomas Weston Baggallay son of Richard Baggallay of Love Lane Aldermanbury in the city of London wholesale haberdasher.

· 1841 Census: with mother (S4). Listed as Thomas Baggallay age 20 born in the county.

· 1851 Census: with parents (S4). Listed as Thomas Weston Baggallay age 29 a merchant born in Lambeth. (Note: census index incorrectly lists his age as 20).

· Marriage: November 23, 1854 St. Luke, West Norwood, Lambeth (S3). Listed as Thomas Weston Baggallay a bachelor and merchant who resided at St. Thomas Southwark whose father was Richard Baggallay a merchant and Louise Westall a spinster who resides at St. Luke Norwood whose father was William Westall deceased.

· 1861 Census: 14 Park Hill, Clapham, Wandsworth (S4). Listed as Thomas Weston Baggallay age 39 a merchant born in Camberwell with wife Louisa age 29 born in Cheapside and 4 children: Frank Thomas, Margaret Louisa, Walter and Kate and 3 servants. (Note: the census index incorrectly lists Margaret’s middle names a Susan).

· 1871 Census: not found.

· 1881 Census: not found.

· 1891 Census: 3 Clarence Lawn, Dover, Kent (S4). Listed as Thomas W. Baggallay age 69 living on own means born in Camberwell with wife Louisa age 59 born in London and 2 servants.

· 1901 Census: 3 Clarence Lawn, Dover, Kent (S4). Listed as Thos W. Baggallay age 79 living on own means born in Camberwell with wife Louisa age 69 born in London and 2 servants.

· Death: 1st QTR 1905 Dover, Kent (S5d). Listed as Thomas Weston Baggallay age 83. February 28, 1905 (S6).

· Burial: March 4, 1905 Norwood Cemetery Lambeth (S7). Listed as Thomas Weston Baggallay of 3 Clarence Lawn, Dover age 83.

· Probate: April 4, 1905 London (S6). Listed as Thomas Weston Baggallay of 3 Clarence-lawn, Dover with effects £9,699 to Louisa Baggallay widow, Frank Thomas Baggallay architect and Ernest Baggallay police-magistrate. (Note: based on other records on ancestry.com Ernest Baggallay appears to be the nephew of Thomas Weston Baggallay, the son of Thomas’s brother Sir Richard Baggallay).

· 1911 Census: 3 Clarence Lawn, Dover, Kent (S4). Listed as Louisa Baggallay a widow age 79 living on private means born in London who had been married 30 years and had 5 children of which 3 were still living, 1 daughter Margaret Louisa, 1 granddaughter and 2 servants.

· Wife’s Death: 2nd QTR 1916 Long Ashton (S5d). Listed as Louisa Baggallay age 85. May 27, 1916 at Beach Villa, Clevedon, Somerset (S6).

· Wife’s Burial: May 31, 1916 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth (S7). Listed as Louisa Baggallay of Beech Villa, The Beech, Clevedon at age 84.

· Wife’s Probate: July 18, 1916 London (S6). Listed as Louisa Baggallay of 3 Clarence-lawn, Dover, widow with effects £3,519 to Margaret Louisa Baggallay spinster, Frank Thomas Baggallay architect and Ernest Baggallay barrister-at-law. (Note: based on other records on ancestry.com Ernest Baggallay appears to be the nephew of Thomas Weston Baggallay, the son of Thomas’s brother Sir Richard Baggallay).

· Children: (S=a search of the GRO online index for male and female births between 1854-1875 with a mother’s maiden name of Westall was undertake with these results).

1. Frank Thomas Baggallay (1855-??). Born: 4th QTR 1859 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed as Frank Thomas Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Westall. 1861 Census: with parents (S4).

2. Margaret Louisa Baggallay (1857-??). Born: 1st QTR 1857 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed as Margaret Louisa Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Westall. 1861 and 1911 Censuses: with parents (S4). (Note: incorrectly listed as Margaret Susan in the census index).

3. Walter Baggallay (1858-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1858 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed as Walter Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Westall. 1861 Census: with parents (S4).

4. Kate Baggallay (1859-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1859 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed as Kate Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Westall. 1861 Census: with parents (S4).

5. Mark Baggallay (1861-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1861 Wandsworth (S=GRO online index), listed as Mark Baggallay with mother’s maiden name Westall.

Westall Generation 1: William Westall (1800-1852) and Jane Mawley (c1802-1873)

· Parent’s Marriage: October 5, 1799 St. Saviour, Southwark, Surrey (S3). Listed as Thomas Westall a bachelor and Winnifred Westall.

· Born: July 3, 1800 (S1c).

· Baptized: July 25, 1800 St. Saviour, Southwark, Surrey (S1c). Listed as William son of Thomas Westall haberdasher and Winifred.

· Marriage: July 9, 1825 St. Mary Lewisham (S3). Listed as William Westall of St Lawrence Loy Lane London a bachelor and Jane Mawley a spinster in the presence of Robt Richard Mawley and J. R. Mawley.

· 1841 Census: Wrights Lane, West side of Streatham Common, Streatham, Wandsworth (S4). Listed as Wm Westall age 40 a merchant born in the county and wife Jane age 35 not born in the county and 6 children all not born in the county: Jane, Louisa, Ellen, Winnifred, Alfred and Amy, 1 governess and 8 servants.

· 1851 Census: 4 Wrights Lane, Streatham, Wandsworth (S4). Listed as William Westall age 50 a whalebone merchant born at St. Saviour, Southwark, Surrey with wife Jane age 49 born at St. Mary Aldermanbury, Middlesex and 5 children all born in St. Lawrence, Givry, Middlesex: William M., Jane, Louisa, Ellen and Marian, 2 visitors and 6 servants.

· Death: August 10, 1852 Streatham and Tooling Gravency, Wandsworth, Surrey (S8d). Listed as William Westall age 52 a whalebone merchant who died at Bakers Lane in Streatham of phthisis pulmonalis.

· Burial: August 18, 1852 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth (S7). Listed as William Westall of Streatham Common age 52.

· Probate: not found.

· 1861 Wife’s Census: 223 Leigham Cl Rd, Streatham, Wandsworth (S4). Listed as Jane Westall a widow age 59 a fundholder born in London with 5 children: Ellen, Alfred C., Winifred, Amy, Marion and 5 servants.

· 1871 Wife’s Census: 141 Moungield, Streatham, Wandsworth (S4). Listed as Jane Westall a widow age 69 an annuitant who was born in London with 2 children both born in London: Robert R., and Winifred, 1 visitor and 4 servants.

· Wife’s Death: 1st QTR 1873 Wandsworth (S5d), listed as Jane Westall age 71. March 6, 1873 at Leigham-Court-road (S6).

· Wife’s Burial: not found.

· Wife’s Probate: April 28, 1873 Principal Registry (S6). Listed as Jane Westall formerly of Aylesford Lodge Lower Norwood but late of Leigham-Court-road Streatham a widow with effects under £10,000 proved by William Mawley Westall of 5 Love-lane, London warehouseman, Robert Richard Westall and Alfred Charles Westall both of Streatham merchants the sons and executors.

· Children:

1. William Mawley Westall (1826-1896). See Westall Generation 2

2. Jane Westall (c1828-??). 1841 and 1851 Censuses: with parents (S4), born in St. Lawrence Jewry.

3. Louisa Westall (c1831-1916). 1841 and 1851 Censuses: with parents (S4), born in St. Lawrence Jewry. – See Baggallay Generation 2.

4. Ellen Westall (c1833-??). 1841, 1851 and 1861 Censuses: with parents (S4), born in St. Lawrence Jewry.

5. Robert Richard Westall (c1834-??). 1871 Census: with parents (S4), born in London.

6. Alfred Charles Westall (c1836-??). 1841 and 1861 Censuses: with parents (S4), born in London.

7. Winifred Westall (c1837-??). 1841, 1861and 1871 Censuses: with parents (S4), born in London.

8. Amy Westall (1838-??). Born: 4th QTR 1838 St. Pancras (S=GRO online index), listed as Amy Westall with mother’s maiden name Mawley. 1841 and 1861 Censuses: with parents (S4).

9. Marian Westall (1841-??). Born: 4th QTR 1841 Wandsworth and Clapham Union (S=GRO online index), listed as Marian Westall with mother’s maiden name Mawley. 1851 and 1861 Censuses: with parents (S4), born in Streatham.

Westall Generation 2: William Mawley Westall (1826-1896) and Helen Briggs (c1829-1898)

· Born: April 12,1826 (S=London, England, Freedom of the City Admission Papers, 1681-1930 available at ancestry.com). Listed as William Mawley Westall son of William Westall a citizen and gidler.

· Baptized: not found.

· 1841 Census: not found.

· 1851 Census: with parents (S4). Listed as William M. Westall age 24 a warehouseman born at St. Lawrence Jewry, Middlesex.

· Marriage: November 20, 1855 St. Pancreas Parish Chapel, Camden (S3). Listed as William Mawley Westall a bachelor and merchant who resided at Lambeth in Surrey whose father was William Westall deceased and Helen Briggs a spinster who resided at St. Pancreas whose father was Henry Robert Briggs a merchant.

· 1861 Census: 278 Albany Street No 158, Marylebone, St. Pancreas, London (S4). Listed as William Mawley Westall son-in-law age 34 a silk warehouseman born St. Lawrence Jewry with wife Helen age 31 born in Bishopsgate and 3 children all born in Stockwell, Lambeth: Helen Maud, Ada and Laura all living in the household of Henry Robert Briggs age 76, William’s father-in-law. (Note: the census index incorrectly lists his middle name as Manley).

· 1871 Census: Waldrons, Croydon, Surrey (S4). Listed as William M. Westall age 44 a master of a firm Manchester wharehouseman born in London with wife Helen age 41 born in London and 7 children: Helen Maud, Ada, Laura, Elizabeth, William, Henrietta and Henry R., 1 governess and 4 servants. (Note: the census taker misspelled warehouseman).

· 1881 Census: 34 The Waldrons, Croydon, Surrey (S4). Listed as William M. Westall age 54 a silk warehouseman born in London with wife Helen age 51 born in London and 5 children: Helen M., Ada, Laura, Henrietta and Isabel and 3 servants.

· 1891 Census: 16 Carlton Rd, St. Paul Deptford, Greenwich (S4). Listed as William M. Westall age 64 a manufacturer of lubricants employer born in London with wife Helen age 61 born in London and 3 children: Ada, Henry R. and Isabell and 1 servant. (Note: the census index incorrectly lists the servant as a granddaughter).

· Death: 3rd QTR 1896 Greenwich (S5d). Listed as William Mawley Westall age 70. September 13, 1896 (S6).

· Burial: not found.

· Probate: November 9, 1896 London (S6). Listed as William Mawley Westall of St. John’s lodge 112 Tressillian-road, Brockley, Kent a warehouseman with effects £8,998 to Helen Westall widow.

· Wife’s Death: 4th QTR 1898 Lewisham (S5d). Listed as Helen Westall age 69. October 15, 1898 (S6).

· Wife’s Burial: not found.

· Wife’s Probate: December 10, 1898 London (S6). Listed as Helen Westall of 57 Manor-park, Lee, Kent a widow with effects £1,585 to Henry Robert Westall accountant.

· Children: (S=a search of the GRO online index for male and female births between 1855-1880 with a mother’s maiden name of Briggs was undertake with these results).

1. Helen Westall (1856-1856). Born: 3rd QTR 1856 Lambeth (S=GRO online index), listed as Helen Westall with mother’s maiden name Briggs. Death: 3rd QTR 1856 Lambeth (S=GRO online index), listed as Helen Westall age 0.

2. Helen Maud Westall (1858-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1858 Lambeth (S=GRO online index), listed as Helen Maud Westall with mother’s maiden name Briggs. 1861, 1871 and 1881 Censuses: with parents (S4).

3. Ada Westall (1859-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1859 Lambeth (S=GRO online index), listed as Ada Westall with mother’s maiden name Briggs. 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 Censuses: with parents (S4).

4. Laura Westall (1860-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1860 Lambeth (S=GRO online index), listed as Laura Westall with mother’s maiden name Briggs. 1861, 1871 and 1881 Censuses: with parents (S4).

5. Elizabeth Westall (1862-??). Born: 1st QTR 1862 Lambeth (S=GRO online index), listed as Elizabeth Westall with mother’s maiden name Briggs. 1871 Census: with parents (S4).

6. William Westall (1865-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1865 Croydon (S=GRO online index), listed as William Westall with mother’s maiden name Briggs. 1871 Census: with parents (S4).

7. Henrietta Westall (1867-??). Born: 1st QTR 1867 Croydon (S=GRO online index), listed as Henrietta Westall with mother’s maiden name Briggs. 1871 and 1881 Censuses: with parents (S4).

8. Henry Robert Westall (1869-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1869 Croydon (S=GRO online index), listed as an unnamed male Westall with mother’s maiden name Briggs. 1871 Census: with parents (S4), listed as Henry R. Westall age 1 born in Croydon. 1891 Census: with parents (S4), listed as Henry R. Westall age 21 born in Croydon.

9. Isabell Westall (1873-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1873 Croydon (S=GRO online index), listed as Isabell Westall with mother’s maiden name Briggs. 1881 and 1891 Censuses: with parents (S4).

Spence Generation 1: Robert Spence (c1787-1873) and Charlotte Harmar (c1799-1877)

· Born: c1787 (S5d), c1787 Southwark (S4).

· Baptized: not found.

· Marriage: July 15, 1822 St. Giles, Camberwell, Southwark (S3). Listed as Robert Spence a bachelor and Charlotte Harmar spinster.

· 1841 Census: Camberwell Terrace, Camberwell, Lambeth (S4). Listed as Robt Spence age 50 a warehouseman born in the county and Charlotte age 40 not born in the county and 8 children all born in the county: Mary, Geo, Eliza, Louisa, Helen, Robert, Fanny and Edwin and 6 servants. (Note: the census index does not include the servants).

· 1851 Census: 45 Stanton Lacy House Fishmore Road, Stanton Lacy, Ludlow, Shropshire (S4). Listed as Robert Spence age 64 a retired merchant born in Southwark with wife Charlotte age 52 born in St. Saviour, Alchurch, 9 children all born in Camberwell: George, Charlotte, Emma, Eliza, Louisa, Helen, Fanny, Jessie Harmar and Alice Margaret and 5 servants

· 1861 Census: 103 Dorset Hall, Merton, Croydon, Surrey (S4). Listed as Robert Spence age 74 out of business retired silk and woolen merchant born in Southwark with wife Charlotte age 62 born in London, 10 children all born in Camberwell: Mary, Charlotte, Emma, Eliza, Louisa, Ellen, Robert, Edwin, Jessie and Alice and 5 servants.

· 1871 Census: 2 Stable Loft, Bromley, Kent (S4). Listed as Robert Spence age 84 a retired merchant born in Southwark with wife Charlotte age 72 born in Cannon St, London, 6 children all born in Camberwell: Mary, Charlotte, Eliza, Louisa, Sophia and Alice, 1 grandson and 5 servants.

· Death: 4th QTR 1873 Bromley, Kent (S5d). Listed as Robert Spence age 86. October 30, 1873 at Bickley (S6).

· Burial: November 6, 1873 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth (S7). Listed as Robert Spence of Spring House, Beckley, Kent age 86.

· Probate: December 23, 1873 Principal Registry (S6). Listed as Robert Spence esquire formerly of Camberwell but late of Bickley near Bromley, Kent with effects under £16,000 proved by Charlotte Spence of Bickley widow, Robert Spence of Love-lane. Cheapside a London wholesale haberdasher the son and Septimus Johnson Du Croz of Lombard-street in said city a merchant, three of the executors.

· Wife’s Death: 3rd QTR 1877 Bromley, Kent (S5d). Listed as Charlotte Spence age 79. July 26, 1877 at Bickley (S6).

· Wife’s Burial: July 31, 1877 Norwood Cemetery, Lambeth (S7). Listed as Charlotte Spence of Springhurst, Bickley, Kent age 79.

· Wife’s Probate: August 15, 1877 Principal Registry (S6). Listed as Charlotte Spence late of Bickley, Kent widow with effects under £3,000 proved by Robert Spence of Love-lane in the city of London wholesale haberdasher the son and Mary Spence of Bickley spinster the daughter, the executors.

· Children:

1. Mary Spence (c1824-??). 1841, 1861 and 1871 Censuses with parents (S4).

2. George Spence (c1825-??). 1841 and 1851 Censuses with parents (S4).

3. Charlotte Spence (c1827-??). 1851, 1861 and 1871 Censuses with parents (S4).

4. Emma Spence (c1829-??). 1851 and 1861 Censuses with parents (S4).

5. Eliza Spence (c1830-??). 1841, 1851 1861 and 1871 Censuses with parents (S4).

6. Louisa Spence (c1832-??). 1841, 1851 1861 and 1871 Censuses with parents (S4).

7. Helen Spence (c1834-??). 1841, 1851 and 1861 Censuses with parents (S4), listed as Ellen Spence in 1861.

8. Robert Spence (1836-??). - See Spence Generation 2.

9. Fanny Spence (1838-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1838 Camberwell (S=GRO online index), listed as Fanny Spence with mother’s maiden name Harmar. 1841 and 1851 Censuses with parents (S4).

10. Edwin John Spence (1840-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1840 Camberwell (S=GRO online index), listed as Edwin John Spence with mother’s maiden name Harmar. 1841 and 1861 Censuses with parents (S4). 1851 Census with brother Robert Spence (S4).

11. Jessie Harmer Spence (1843-??). 1851 and 1861 Censuses with parents (S4). No birth or death record was found with this name and the mother’s maiden name Harmar from 1840-1845 (S=GRO online index). This could be Octavia Spence only using a different forename.

12. Sophia Spence (1843-??). 1871 Census with parents (S4). No birth or death record was found with this name and the mother’s maiden name Harmar from 1840-1845 (S=GRO online index). This could be Octavia Spence only using a different forename.

13. Octavia Spence (1842-??) 3rd QTR 1842 Camberwell (S=GRO online index), listed as Octavia Spence with mother’s maiden name Harmar. Not listed in the census with this forename.

14. Alice Spence (1844-1926). Born: 4th QTR 1844 Camberwell (S=GRO online index), listed as Alice Spence with mother’s maiden name Harmar. 1851 1861 and 1871 Censuses with parents (S4). 1911 Census: 4 Morley Cottages, Chislehurst, Kent (S4), listed as Alice Margaret Spence age 66 single with no occupation born in St. Giles Camberwell and 1 servant. Death: April 21, 1926 Chislehurst, Bromley, Kent (S8d), listed as Alice Margaret Spence age 81 a spinster who died at 4 Morley Cottages in Chislehurst of myocardial degeneration; April 21, 1926 (S6). Probate: June 4, 1926 London (S6), listed as Alice Margaret Spence of 4 Morley-cottages Chislehurst, Kent a spinster with effects £6,707 to Arthur Melbourne Du Croz and George Malcom Spence esquires.

Spence Generation 2: Robert Spence Junior (1836-??) and Alice Layton (c1845-??)

· Born: June 16, 1836 (S1c), Camberwell (S4).

· Baptized: August 26, 1836 St. Giles, Camberwell, Southwark (S1c). Listed as Robert son of Robert and Charlotte Spence of Camberwell with father listed as a gentleman.

· 1841 Census: with parents (S4). Listed as Robert Spence age 4 born in the county.

· 1851 Census: Castle Street, St. John the Baptist, Hereford, Herefordshire (S4). Listed as Robert Spence a boarder age 14 a scholar born in Camberwell. His brother Edwin Spence age 10 is also listed here.

· 1861 Census: with parents (S4). Listed as Robert Spence age 24 silk and woolen merchant born in Camberwell.

· Marriage: August 16, 1865 St. George’s Church Bickley, Bromley, Kent (S8m). Listed as Robert Spence age 29 a bachelor and merchant who resided in Bickley whose father was Robert Spencer a gentleman and Alice Layton age 21 a spinster.

· 1871 Census: 6 Page Heath, Bromley, Kent (S4). Listed as Robert Spence age 34 a warehouseman & drapery born in Camberwell with wife Alice age 26 born in Newington, Surrey, 2 children: Robert M. and George M. and 2 servants.

· 1881 Census: 136-6 Page Heath Rd, Bromley, Kent (S4). Listed as Robert Spence age 46 a warehouseman Manchester born in Camberwell with wife Alice age 36 born in Walworth, Surrey, 5 children all born in Bickley: Margaret, Ethel M., Mabel, Dorothy A. and Reginald A. and 4 servants.

· 1891 Census: 104 Mayfield Numan Rd, Bromley, Kent (S4). Listed as Robert Spence age 54 a fellow of the society of accountants employer born in Camberwell with wife Alice age 46 born in Camberwell and 3 children all born in Bromley Common, Kent : George M., Margaret H. and Mabel K. and 1 servant

· 1901 Census: 163 Waldron, Bromley, Kent (S4). Listed as Robert Spence age 64 an incorporated accountant own account born in Camberwell with wife Alice age 56 born in Walworth, 6 children: Mabel K., Dorothy A., Violet E., Winifred, George W., Walter W. and 2 servants.

· 1911 Census: not found.

· Death: not found.

· Burial: not found.

· Probate: not found.

· Wife’s Death: not found.

· Wife’s Burial: not found.

· Wife’s Probate

· Children:

1. Robert Morris Spence (1866-??). Born: 3rd QTR Kensington (S=GRO online index), listed as Robert Morris Spence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1871 Census with parents (S4).

2. George Malcom Spence (1869-??). Born: 4th QTR 1869 Bromley Union (S=GRO online index), listed as George Malcom Spence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1871, 1891 and 1901 Censuses with parents (S4).

3. Margaret Helen Spence (1871-??). Born: 3rd QTR 1871 Bromley Union (S=GRO online index), listed as Margaret Helen Spence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1881 and 1891 Censuses with parents (S4).

4. Ethel Mary Spence (1875-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1875 Bromley (S=GRO online index), listed as Ethel Mary Spence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1881 Census with parents (S4).

5. Mabel Katherine Spence (1876-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1876 Bromley (S=GRO online index), listed as Mabel Katherine Spence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1881, 1891 and 1901 Censuses with parents (S4).

6. Dorothy Alice Spence (1878-??). Born: 1st QTR 1878 Bromley (S=GRO online index), listed as Dorothy Alice Spence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1881 and 1901 Censuses with parents (S4).

7. Reginald Arthur Spence (1880-??). Born: 2nd QTR 1880 Bromley (S=GRO online index), listed as Reginald Arthur Pence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1881 Census with parents (S4).

8. Violet Evelyn Spence (1882-??). Born: 1st QTR 1882 Bromley (S=GRO online index), listed as Violet Evelyn Spence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1901 Census with parents (S4).

9. Winifred Spence (1883-??). Born: 4th QTR 1883 Uckfield (S=GRO online index), listed as Winifred Spence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1901 Census with parents (S4).

10. Walter Newbury Spence (1884-??). Born: 4th QTR 1884 Uckfield (S=GRO online index), listed as Walter Newberry Spence with mother’s maiden name Layton. 1901 Census with parents (S4).

Avery style needle cases stamped with the Baggallay’s, Westall and Spence name.

1. Alliance: Mechanical patent #1473 Fig.9a dated May 21, 1870 and #1322 Fig.1 dated May 16, 1871 registered by William Avery of Redditch (S=British Library - Business and Intellectual Property Centre, London).

2. Archery Society: Ornamental Design #305490 dated November 27, 1876 registered by W. Avery & Son of Redditch (S=The National Archives, Kew). (This needle case with this company name was sold online, however the author did not get a photograph of it).

3. Bee Case: Ornamental Design #263785 dated June 27, 1872 registered by W. Avery & Son of Redditch (S=The National Archives, Kew).

4. Bombe: Ornamental Design # 261971 dated April 17, 1872 registered by W. Avery & Son of Redditch (S=The National Archives, Kew), signed per Horowitz and Mann.

5. Britannia: Mechanical patent #1473 Fig.9a dated May 21, 1870 and #1322 Fig.1 dated May 16, 1871 registered by William Avery of Redditch, (S=British Library - Business and Intellectual Property Centre, London), signed per Horowitz and Mann.

6. Butterfly: Ornamental Design #254656 dated August 4, 1871 registered by William Avery & Son of Redditch (S=The National Archives, Kew).

7. Easel - Floral: Ornamental Design # 292979 dated July 19, 1875 registered by Buncher & Haseler of Birmingham (S=The National Archives, Kew).

8. Guitar - Ornamental Design #325528 dated August 30, 1878 registered by W. Avery & Son, Redditch (S=The National Archives, Kew).

9. Hedgehog: Ornamental Design #263784 dated June 27, 1872 registered by W. Avery & Son, Redditch (S=The National Archives, Kew).

10. Horseshoe: Ornamental Design #283264 dated June 25, 1874 registered by Buncher & Haseler of Birmingham (S=The National Archives, Kew).

11. Painted Scrolls: Patent or Design Registration not found.

12. Picnic Basket: Ornamental Design #290854 dated April 23, 1875 registered by Buncher & Haseler of Birmingham (S=The National Archives, Kew).

13. Pyramid Pin Case: Non-Ornamental Useful Design #5367 dated June 28, 1872 registered by W. Avery & Son of Redditch (S=The National Archives, Kew).

14. Scallop Shell: Ornamental Design #257721 dated November14, 1871 registered by William Avery & Son of Redditch (S=The National Archives, Kew), signed per Horowitz and Mann.

15. Stella Golden: Mechanical patent #2998 Fig.14 dated October 14, 1869 registered by William Avery and Albert Fenton of Redditch (S=British Library - Business and Intellectual Property Centre, London).

16. Trolley and Box: Ornamental Design #313961 dated September 7, 1876 registered by Frank J. Kendrick of Birmingham (S=The National Archives, Kew). (This needle case with this company name was sold online, however the author did not get a photograph of it).

17. Universal Pin Case: Mechanical Patent #1332 Fig.29 & 30 dated May 16, 1871 registered by William Avery & Son of Redditch (S=British Library - Business and Intellectual Property Centre, London).

18. Victoria with Windmill and Horse: Mechanical patent #1473 Fig.11 dated May 21, 1870 registered by William Avery of Redditch (S=British Library - Business and Intellectual Property Centre, London).

19. Victorian Rowboat: Ornamental Design #281251 dated March 18, 1874 registered by Buncher & Haseler of Birmingham (S=The National Archives, Kew).

20. Wheelbarrow with Holly: Ornamental Design #287090 dated November 18, 1874 registered by Buncher & Haseler of Birmingham (S=The National Archives, Kew), signed per Horowitz and Mann.

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